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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:04 pm 
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http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/a-public-letter-to-the-yung-shue-wan-police-post:

"We are writing as a concerned community in Hong Kong. We feel that the Hong Kong Police Force (HKPF) has been negligent in enforcing the Special Administrative Region’s own laws in relation to the fatal poisoning of dozens of dogs on Lamma Island (see Cruelty to Animals Ordinance [Cap. 169]). Specifically, we are concerned that:

(A) There are no known criminal investigations or prosecutions despite intentional dog poisonings having occurred over several years with a death toll that we can only speculate at;

(B) Members of our community have turned in samples of suspected poisoned bait, but they have allegedly been ignored and/or sent away;

(C) The HKPF has not shared with the community relevant and timely information about poisonings that might promote the safety and welfare of our pets;

(D) More recently, members of our community have provided information linking a possible suspect to the poisoning of three dogs in Hung Shung Yeh on December 18th, 2013. We are deeply concerned by reports that the Post (1) will not take into evidence a veterinarians confirmation of poisoning based on symptoms, and (2) will not investigate this crime in a way that would lead to charges filed against the poisoner or poisoners."


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153 supporters already, just one hour or so later...

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:28 am 
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From the Lamma Dog Owners group:

Meeting: Sat, Dec 21. 16:00:

Theme: Discussion on DOG POISON CASEs and Ceremony for Victims and Victims' families
Contact person: Maya: 6444-0870


Venue: Anthony Yao's friend new restaurant: Between Just Green and Book Worm Cafe.
As it's a small venue, priority will be given to people who are either directly involved in this cause or are willing to commit to volunteer if we have too many people showing up.

* Brief participation is also welcomed.
* You can bring your animals' pictures (Poison victims)

What to discuss:

1. Issues between animal and human society
2. Agnes and Luke's poisoned dog
3. Police's task
4. Prevention
5. Responsible ownership
6. Suspicious acts

About 2 years ago, senior police detectives and Lamma animal owners had a meeting for the serial poisonings and targets attack like Agnes, Luke and other animal owners.
However, nothing has been changed. We need to work together to make Lamma a safe and peaceful island. We need to move forward.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:38 pm 
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Meeting last Sat in the Hangout, a brand-new, future bar in-between Just Green and Bookworm Cafe.
Open only for private parties so far.

Trey writes:

"Some notes from our meeting Saturday afternoon. Includes notes from Dr. Johannes de Vries on what the community should know about poisoning (including how to 'cure' the poisoning within six hours), notes on how the criminal investigations proceed, short-term to-do list, etc.

Kudos to Paul Anthony Yao and Maya Ando for organizing.

Good stuff. Take a look."


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:08 pm 
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Police don't care about "negatively affecting the image of Lamma" when they trumpet press releases about the "expat drug ring" and other bullshit that ends up with nothing except a few charges of possession.

What they really are worried about is that it makes them look ineffective.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:54 am 
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Over 500 signatures on the bilingual online petition already!

的公開信到榕樹灣警崗 An Open Letter to the Yung Shue Wan Police Post

You can expect an official reply from the Lamma Police very soon...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:27 pm 
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Official reply received from Lamma Police Chief:

Response to the Petition – re. Dog Poison cases in Lamma

Police has received a “Suspected Dog Poison case” around 0300 hours on 2013-12-18. Informant is a resident in Hung Shing Yeh Beach who made a report after he found his dog having eaten some meat outside his garden then felt sick. Informant handed the meat and vomit from the dog to officers at the Lamma Police Post. These exhibits were then onwards despatched to the Government Laboratory for examination. The result is pending. Following enquiry, Informant also disclosed that two of his dogs had died after having eaten meats on 2013-12-04 but no immediate report was made to Police. Some residents expressed concern about the incidents and urged police to give priority to the case. I would like to take this opportunity to assure the community that the police attach great importance to the case and has directed a crime team to investigate the case with the following actions being taken :-

1) Step up visible police patrols in the black spots;
2) Display notices to provide information and advice as well as point out the potential penalties for cruelty to animals;
3) Assign a crime investigation team to handle the investigation;
4) Despatch all suspected poison bait for Government Laboratory Examination; and
5) Organize Joint-Campaign with the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) to raise the awareness of Lamma residents on dog poisoning

Your assistance to report immediately any suspected “Dog Poison” cases is requested. Your information and partnership to prevent and interdict the Dog Poisoning case is most welcome. Please call 999 in any urgent cases or contact the Lamma Police Post at anytime through 3661 1714 for immediate assistance.

We are working hard to maintain the integrity of our relationship with the community and will work with our best efforts to maintain law and order on the island.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:46 pm 
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... and they completely ignored the demand to show any numbers (of reported poisonings, of suspected baits turned in, of tests performed, of people questioned). No reward offered for information. No strategy to bring past poisoners to justice - though "assign a crime investigation team to handle the investigation" could mean any number of things.

I think they're just too embarrassed to admit the sheer scale of the problem. Acknowledging how rampant this has been is the first step in doing things like setting up a reward.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:26 pm 
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You can't really expect the police to offer an award for information. That's pretty rare. It would only come with political pressure, and the local politicians think it's quite acceptable to control dogs by killing them. And as for bringing anyone to justice: It's hard to think of a situation that would enable a successful prosecution. Someone caught dropping bits of meat is just littering. No matter what is on them, they can say they saw it and picked it up to look at and then threw it away again. If there was poison on it, they can say it was already on the ground. You have to prove cause and effect and intent. Unless they confessed, there would be no real penalty.

Even if you imagine setting up 24-hour video surveillance in "hot spots", it's never going to be sufficient to prove a crime. You can't prove that the thing a dog ate is the same as the one you saw someone drop hours earlier.

The one thing the police said that may make a difference is they will "Despatch all suspected poison bait for Government Laboratory Examination". That at least should show the specific poison.

I think the only way to protect dogs from this is to muzzle them.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:16 pm 
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Alan wrote:
I think the only way to protect dogs from this is to muzzle them.


The poisoned bait was put into the owners garden. The dogs shouldn't have to be muzzled on their own property.

A few people spoke with the Police about whom they think is the suspect. The Police refused to take this further, or to make any investigations.

The Police said there was 'no poison'. It was just 'discomfort' for the dogs. The dogs are dead. But I suppose that was an insensitive response due to 'language' problems.

By the time the 'poisoned meat' gets to the Government Lab, the poison will most probably have disappeared, as this happens apparently after a certain amount of time.


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Tigger wrote:
The poisoned bait was put into the owners garden. The dogs shouldn't have to be muzzled on their own property.

None of this "should" be happening.

If poison was thrown into someone's yard, it would be a more serious offence than just dropping it by the path.
But you still need an eyewitness, you can't prosecute on suspicion.


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Maybe dog owners should train their dogs better and spend more time at home as opposed to locking their miserable pets on balconies for hours upon hours at a time! Pick up the feces that litters every path and I imagine this will go a long way toward reducing the ill will incessantly barking, half-crazed dogs generate among neighbors. I have never seen so many ppl being walked by their dogs instead of vice versa! Get it together, owners! Maybe poisonings will then let up.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:10 pm 
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Warning poster from Maya, going up in the dangerous areas where more dog poisonings have been reported recently.

Check out the highly active Lamma Dog Owners Facebook group for very frequent updates and news.


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Hey Guys,
Almost every day I leave some meat for homeless dogs on the side of the road (I live in Tai Yuen Village)- its either a sausage, bacon or some beef from the soup. After reading the posters I felt bit weird and my boyfriend advised me no to do it, as I might be suspected of poisoning. I can also understand dog owners freaking out when they notice they dog picking up a random piece of meat. What would you advise, is there any "official" and safe place on the Island where I could feed them or leave leftovers?


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Monika wrote:
Hey Guys,
Almost every day I leave some meat for homeless dogs on the side of the road (I live in Tai Yuen Village)- its either a sausage, bacon or some beef from the soup.


Please don't!!!!!

A dog comes along (on leash!) immediately picks up the food,.. and then you have one very stressed out owner!! One very stressed dog whilst you are pouring activated charcoal down it's neck!! Then disruptions, cost and stress of taking your dogs to the vet!!

Not to mention wild boar coming onto the paths for the food. Rats,.. roaches... etc.....

Please don't! Thank you.


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Alan wrote:
If poison was thrown into someone's yard, it would be a more serious offence than just dropping it by the path.
But you still need an eyewitness, you can't prosecute on suspicion.


CCTV footage from the owners garden shows someone offering the dogs food. Spraying the dogs. And putting food put onto their property.

How much evidence is needed for the Police to investigate?


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Tigger wrote:
Alan wrote:
If poison was thrown into someone's yard, it would be a more serious offence than just dropping it by the path.
But you still need an eyewitness, you can't prosecute on suspicion.


CCTV footage from the owners garden shows someone offering the dogs food. Spraying the dogs. And putting food put onto their property.

How much evidence is needed for the Police to investigate?


Why didn't you say there was a video at the beginning?

If it's true, it sounds like a personal vendetta, sending a message to the owner, rather than the random laying of bait. If the perpetrator is identifiable then the police must prosecute. If you have enough money, you could make a civil suit.


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Alan wrote:
Why didn't you say there was a video at the beginning?

If it's true, it sounds like a personal vendetta, sending a message to the owner, rather than the random laying of bait. If the perpetrator is identifiable then the police must prosecute. If you have enough money, you could make a civil suit.


I had only heard in the beginning that there were pictures of someone loitering suspiciously. . So wasn't sure if it was rumour. However, having now seen the 'stills' from the CCTV, then there is no doubt in my mind. The perpetrator is very much identifiable.

Yes, it sounds very much like a personal vendetta. But that still makes three dead dogs, and one sick bastard that needs to be caught. Let's hope the Police help with all the evidence given????


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Tigger wrote:
Monika wrote:
Hey Guys,
Almost every day I leave some meat for homeless dogs on the side of the road (I live in Tai Yuen Village)- its either a sausage, bacon or some beef from the soup.


Please don't!!!!!
A dog comes along (on leash!) immediately picks up the food,.. and then you have one very stressed out owner!! One very stressed dog whilst you are pouring activated charcoal down it's neck!! Then disruptions, cost and stress of taking your dogs to the vet!!
Not to mention wild boar coming onto the paths for the food. Rats,.. roaches... etc.....
Please don't! Thank you.


Monika - there are no homeless dogs in the built up areas of Lamma. The dogs you see wandering around have homes but their owners are irresponsible.
There are still homeless true feral dogs living in the hills. If you would like to help feed them please contact me by private message. They are being fed in the hills to keep them away from the beach areas where they can be a nuisance - and also as a prelude to trapping and desexing them (TNR).


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Police vow to step up patrols in wake of dog poisonings on Lamma and Peng Chau islands

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:49 pm 
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Let's copy this story here before it vanishes behind the pay wall of the SCMP, only accessible to their paid subscribers ($699/year minimum):

SCMP, Monday, 06 January, 2014, 12:04pm. By Danny Lee:

Police vow to step up patrols in wake of dog poisonings on Lamma and Peng Chau islands

Move comes after residents complain of lack of investigation by police

Police are looking into the deaths of two dogs suspected to have been poisoned on Hong Kong’s outlying islands, the latest in what residents there fear is a new wave of malicious attacks on the animals.

Two dogs have died of suspected poisoning since Friday, one on Lamma Island and the other on Peng Chau.

Long-suffering dog owners on Lamma Island say over 100 canine deaths there have gone unpunished in the last ten years. A petition and open letter, released by owners in the wake of the suspected poisoning deaths of three more dogs last month, have garnered more than 700 signatures in three weeks. After several months of repeated requests from residents, Lamma police finally revealed that 17 cases of suspected poisoning of Lamma dogs have been logged since January 2011.

While owners have long lost faith in local police, it is understood Senior Inspector Joyce Wong Siu-man of Lamma police apologised for the perceived mishandling of dog poisoning cases in a face-to-face meeting last week with concerned residents.

Locals have posted bilingual posters urging owners to keep pets on leashes and in muzzles, and are mounting regular patrols to search for poisoned bait.

“All the time I’ve lived here, you’d often get reports of poisonings,” says James Alexander, 41, a teacher who has lived on Lamma since 1998. “You’d think: ‘Thank God it’s not mine’. Until it’s yours.”

Ashley, his 11 year-old Shar Pei mixed breed, was healthy and very active until New Year’s Eve, when he took her for her usual walk. Later she began vomiting up “unusual food” that Alexander had not fed her.
All the time I’ve lived here, you’d often get reports of poisonings. You’d think: ‘Thank God it’s not mine’. Until it’s yours
James Alexander, 41, Lamma Island dog owner

“I hoped it was just severe gastroenteritis,” says Alexander, but subsequent blood tests failed to find anything. “Her panting was more desperate. She was even worse the next morning.”

Local vet Dr Johannes de Vries put Ashley to sleep on January 3 after her condition worsened. De Vries suspects it was poisoning – probably by paraquat, a popular weed killer.

Owners Agnes Tam Shuk-yim, 54, and Luke Lo Ka-wing, 50, lost three dogs within a matter of days in December after suspected poisoning. All three suffered painful vomiting and choking as their lungs were destroyed – symptoms synonymous with paraquat poisoning – before being put down.

Tam says she feels “helpless” after losing Piggy, 11, Cable, 11, and Hei Mui, aged four.

For all dog owners on the island it evokes painful nightmares of their own dogs suffering.

The anger on Lamma comes in the wake of a two-month jail term for “utterly selfish and cold-blooded” retiree Tsang Hoi-tong, 64, who enticed a stray dog to eat chicken laced with mixed pesticides leading to its “slow and painful” death by poisoning.

In one of few such dog poisoning cases to result in a prison sentence in recent memory, Tsang claimed his actions were motivated by an attack on his wife by pack of stray dogs.

“What the judge did is a disgrace, handing a light sentence to the poisoner,” said Julie Yao, owner of two dogs on Lamma. “The case sends a really bad message for poisoners.”

Police on Lamma insist they evaluate each case to see if it merits further investigation, and usually cite insufficient evidence for not following up on suspect deaths or illnesses among dogs. In a letter to residents Senior Inspector Wong said officers would step up patrols in reported poisoning black spots, assign a crime investigation team to handle an investigation into the most recent deaths and send all suspected poison bait recovered to government labs for testing. She also promised to organise a campaign with the help of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) to raise awareness of poisoning on Lamma.

Bowen Road in the Mid-Levels area is another notorious poisoning black spot that has claimed the lives of 200 dogs in two decades, the SPCA say.

Cruelty to animals carries a maximum sentence of three years’ imprisonment and a fine of up to HK$200,000.

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