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Yes it seems they've just gone ahead and announced this without the promised further public consultation taking place. Not sure whether that means a legal challenge is possible, but it would be interesting to find out.

LG I can't find anything about developments at Sham Wan. I've had problems with the link, but seems to me it's still marked out as an SSSI (i.e. do not touch).

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I'm posting here as the young generation of Indigenous Inhabitant in Lamma, my uncle just told me the TPB has just passed the reclamation plan of lamma, which is completly violating public opinion, no member in the Lamma Island (NORTH) Rural Committee voted for this proposal.

We will host a signature collection campaign and contact local media to give some pressure to the government even it may be a bit late(since Yu Lai Fan has betrayed the locals, she kept saying that she would negotiate for the locals).


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I think that legally this is only a change of zoning. Obviously the intent is to enable the reclamation, but that has yet to be formally proposed.

They are proceeding with all the administrative details they can without any public participation.
Like every other project, the details are all decided and agreed between the power brokers long before the public has a chance to discuss, let alone propose any changes.
But there must eventually be a public consultation, in which they will try to bulldoze through, smearing any opponents.

Since we did manage to bring it to a halt the last time it was proposed in the 90s, there is hope.
We have to hold the line. The proportion of non-DAB-supporting residents is only increasing.
EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE HAS THE RIGHT, AND OBLIGATION, TO VOTE for LegCo, District Council, Village Reps (if not for CE).
As long as the yuppies can be bothered to register to vote and turn out we can get someone in power who is not focused on pouring concrete to the exclusion of all else.

How dumb are our "representatives", that with what was once, and could be again now that sewage won't be going into it, an attractive, even swimmable, natural beach in the village bay, that the only way they can imagine using it is as first a garbage dump and now paving it over (and then continuing to dump garbage, no doubt)?
They block access to it and harass anyone trying to clean it up.
For a village whose business depends on tourism this is almost criminal neglect.

Look at Tung Wan on Cheung Chau, for instance, as how a beach can be an asset to the village.
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In YSW you have to clamber up and down a stone wall to even get onto the beach.


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"even it may be a bit late(since Yu Lai Fan has betrayed the locals, "

Ho ho ho! Someone went into YLF's office last week to ask about this and was told clearly they knew nothing about it (not from YLF herself, one of her staff)


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Someone has pasted up copies of the zoning plan in Main Street (outside old Corner Bar at least) with text complaining it's being done without consultation. I suspect a local Chinese, which is good because YLF always deflects any criticism by saying it's just us evil "foreign influences" who hate progress.


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Another fucking helipad?

For medical emergencies we don't need another $25 million helipad, $20,000/flight, we need a few hundred thousand a year to have a qualified doctor here 24/7, instead of a doctor who won't even stitch a cut, and goes home to HK after office hours, who's never here on weekends or holidays or T8s when accidents are more likely.

And a fast boat to get patients to Pokfulam for QMH in 15 minutes would be much better than a helicopter which can't fly in rough weather and takes an hour to get you to a hospital anyway.

It's just yet another excuse to piss money away on concrete.


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It means the existing helipad, I think. Southern part of the bay,

They might not have changed that wording since before the helipad was built as the OZP has been amended for decades

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A great insider account, probably more informative and closer to the truth than any BS you'd get from official sources:

"I recently spoke with a senior engineer at CEDD involved in the YSW harbour redevelopment phase II. I imagine some people would be interested in what he said. Not in any particular order, he said that the CEDD is currently reviewing the project with the Planning Dept. Objections raised during the consultation stage are being aired, with objections to the Emergency Vehicle Access road and the so-called Commercial Site receiving particular attention.

Apparently, CEDD is proposing that both of these could - or even should - be scrapped, which would possibly then lead to a complete reappraisal of the existing plan. However, he said the Planning Dept. calls the shots and could, theoretically, plough ahead with the plan as it stands.

He said they are under a lot of pressure from the District Council to get on with it, but added that with the current situation in LegCo and the ongoing review it is highly unlikely any action will take place before 2017, and quite possibly later."

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