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Owww i say Eveready i only hope you are eveready :wink:
I will be back in Pak Kok if i can find a place to rent in August
when i am moving back to my most favourite place
The Land of Pak Kok :D


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The chief Elder goes against the wishes of the other Elders, agreeing to allow his blind daughter Esmerelda to pass through the forest and seek out medicine for GM. Before she leaves, he explains the secret of the creatures – they are "fake" - bogeymen created by the Elders to keep the innocent Pak Kok children from entering the woods in an attempt to keep them from leaving the village. He does mention, however, that "Those We Don't Speak Of" were based upon legends that he had heard at one time, of "real creatures" living in the woods...

While Esmerelda is traveling through the forest, one of the beasts suddenly attacks her. She tricks it into falling into a deep hole to its death, wailing "Whyyyyyyy...!?" as it falls. The creature is actually EverReady in a costume that he had found previously under the floor of the room where he was kept locked away.

Esmerelda eventually finds her way to the far edge of the woods, where she encounters a high, bougainvillea-covered wall. After she climbs over the wall, a Formula 3 driver driving a Village Vehicle with the words "Pak Kok Wildlife Preserve" on the side spots Esmerelda and is shocked to hear that she has come out of the woods.

The driver retrieves medicine from a traditional chinese medicine shop and Esmerelda returns to the village. All the Elders sit around GM's bed. The chief Elder points out that EverReady's death will allow them to continue deceiving the rest of the villagers that there are "creatures" in the woods and all the Elders take a vote to continue living in the village. Esmerelda arrives and says "I'm back, GM."

[The End]


GM- good morning, finished reading your tale at last it was truly a wonderful story not only it was terrific but also terrifying ones almost romantic like Barbara Cartland and likes. Judging from it you must be Chinese and a Novelist, I have been told the Chinese do believed in those kinds of Tales did happened and think they still do exist. SO Soooo SCARILY


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i would love to live in Pak Kok, but the lack of a good food store has always held me back. I finish teaching late in the evening and the prospect of carrying shopping bags or pushing a trolley from YSW to Pak Kok at 11 pm is a major deterrent. I don't mind walking, i actually like the paths to Pak Kok, but carrying books, students' papers, and groceries up the hill in the rain or in the heat is no fun.


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Haven't been there yet, so trying to honestly figure this out. But isn't there a ferry from Pak Kok to YSW? like 10 minutes or something?


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yes, there is a ferry, but it's infrequent and stops at dinnertime, at which time i am still teaching.
Before moving to Pak Kok, check out the ferry timetable.


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Hello there, I'm the one who PM'd you in geoexpat.

Yes, the ferry from Aberdeen calls in at Pak Kok then continues to YSW (10 minutes), then it comes back the same way. And the walk to YSW isn't so bad - 20 mins, the exercise does one good.

I've lived in Pak Kok since 1994, and Lamma (YSW) since 1977. I've never found the locations to be a problem. The many other people & families who live in Pak Kok also seem to be happy here and many stay long term. The detractors probably have never lived here, and thankfully probably never will.

I must confess that the story was not original material, I am guessing some people will have figured it out, it was shamelessly lifted from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Village_(2004_film)
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunchb ... (1982_film)


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yes, there is a ferry, but it's infrequent and stops at dinnertime, at which time i am still teaching.
Before moving to Pak Kok, check out the ferry timetable.


The last ferry from Aberdeen is 10pm Mon-Sat.

The options thereafter are:
- sampan from Aberdeen
- Central ferry to YSW then walk


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Thanks. I'm not too worried about the walk personally, but my wife has not so good knees, and the walking in Hong Kong will be challenge enough for her, i think.


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the ferry from Aberdeen doesn't really appeal to those who travel by MTR, work on the North side of HK island or in Kowloon. If there were evening ferries from Central to Pak Kok, i am sure rents would shoot up. The reason why it's cheaper to live there has everything to do with the ferry service.


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Thanks. I'm not too worried about the walk personally, but my wife has not so good knees, and the walking in Hong Kong will be challenge enough for her, i think.


It's a nice walk but having to get past the snarling dogs at the half way point can be terrifying. They are not always tied up and I was attacked by one last year so for me the walk comes with some trepidation.

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It's a nice walk but having to get past the snarling dogs at the half way point can be terrifying. They are not always tied up and I was attacked by one last year so for me the walk comes with some trepidation.


I always carry a walking stick. Cut a bamboo, or you can get a cheap telescopic one that you can keep in your bag in the day.
Dogs see you with that and they keep their distance. Never had to actually use it as a weapon, but they know I can.
Or look for a stick a couple of feet long beside the path if you're getting nervous.


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Goat Maison wrote:
It's a nice walk but having to get past the snarling dogs at the half way point can be terrifying. They are not always tied up and I was attacked by one last year so for me the walk comes with some trepidation.


I always carry a walking stick. Cut a bamboo, or you can get a cheap telescopic one that you can keep in your bag in the day.
Dogs see you with that and they keep their distance. Never had to actually use it as a weapon, but they know I can.
Or look for a stick a couple of feet long beside the path if you're getting nervous.


When I was attacked I did reach for a large stone as the dogs here all recognised the stone-about-to-be-thrown-posture and it was covered in dog shit! Un friggin believable! It was not a good day. :cussing:

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What is wrong with Pak Kok???/. be honey please, thanks.


Middle of nowhere, difficult to get to or from, no shops or anything else (sorry, one tiny shop that doesn't have much aside from a lovely dog), boats very infrequent and only to Aberdeen, have to travel to YSW (25 minute walk one way) for everything else, on or off the island - don't get me wrong, if you like absolute isolation then its fine, but the main thing is that in the summer the heat makes it VERY difficult coming and going from Pak Kok, even more difficult than it already is.

Non-natives that live there do so because it is cheaper, there is no other reason. Those that give alternative reasons do so as there seems to be a need to offer some justification for living somewhere so random. I am not saying that it is a bad thing or passing judgement on those that do, they are just the facts. If that is your main objective though in keeping costs to a minimum and doing whatever it takes and for whatever reason then fair enough, it just isn't particularly easy or enjoyable in terms of the quality of life.


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islandcouple wrote:
Middle of nowhere, difficult to get to or from, no shops or anything else (sorry, one tiny shop that doesn't have much aside from a lovely dog), boats very infrequent and only to Aberdeen, have to travel to YSW (25 minute walk one way) for everything else, on or off the island - don't get me wrong, if you like absolute isolation then its fine, but the main thing is that in the summer the heat makes it VERY difficult coming and going from Pak Kok, even more difficult than it already is.

Non-natives that live there do so because it is cheaper, there is no other reason. Those that give alternative reasons do so as there seems to be a need to offer some justification for living somewhere so random. I am not saying that it is a bad thing or passing judgement on those that do, they are just the facts. If that is your main objective though in keeping costs to a minimum and doing whatever it takes and for whatever reason then fair enough, it just isn't particularly easy or enjoyable in terms of the quality of life.



The most disgusting in this post is the polite way you are explaining to to others how hypocritical they are by hiding the “true” reason of choosing Pak Kok and other remote places.

It is interesting to me, what is your reason to place a post like that, especially if you are not interested in this apartment. To make a show how clever you are? You have your preferences. What is the point in attacking preferences of others?


RAMBLER: I recieved an email from Info@lamma that someone has sent me a mail that I noted it is your respond but unsure who exactely are you addressed it to; was me or someone else because you did not or might forgot input a name, it isn't really mattered as far as I am concern everyone is entiled to thier opinion as this is a FREEWORLD also classed as FREEDOM of SPEECH don't you agree???/. DON'T get too upset with yourself, be HAPPY :D .


I DON'T SEE ISLANDCOUPLE IS ANY OFFENSIVE HE AND/OR SHE AND/OR THEY IS(ARE) EXPRESSING HIS AND/OR HER AND/OR THEIR VIEW(S) OPENLY AND HONESTLY.
BASED ON THE SUBMISSION FROM ISLANDCOUPLE, IT IS SAFE TO CONCLUDE THAT P. K. SEEMED TO HAVE LITTLE DIFFERENCES FROM A REMOTE CHINESE VILLAGE AND FROM THE OBJECTIONS RAISED BY RAMBLER, LANDLORDS IN Y.S.W. SHOULD REDUCE THEIR PROFITS IN A DRASTIC MANNER AND THE LAWS AND POLICIES IN HONG KONG SHALL REFORM FOR MORE AVAILABILITIES FOR OCCUPANCIES IN Y.S.W..

NOTA BENE
3 YEARS ON, NOTHING CHANGES


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NO NEED TO SHOUT!


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NO NEED TO SHOUT!

I DON'T SEE ANY SHOUTING I AM JUST POINTING OUT THE FACTS BROADLY AND JUSTLY.


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I DON'T SEE ANY SHOUTING I AM JUST POINTING OUT THE FACTS BROADLY AND JUSTLY.


IN ALL UPPER CASE!

Try using your inside voice.


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Middle of nowhere, difficult to get to or from, no shops or anything else (sorry, one tiny shop that doesn't have much aside from a lovely dog), boats very infrequent and only to Aberdeen, have to travel to YSW (25 minute walk one way) for everything else, on or off the island - don't get me wrong, if you like absolute isolation then its fine, but the main thing is that in the summer the heat makes it VERY difficult coming and going from Pak Kok, even more difficult than it already is...

Living in Pak Kok for almost 2 years, I agree with much of islandcouple's first paragraph. And yes, we moved here mostly because of the rent, but have started to appreciate the advantages of living here, like the peace, amazing views, nature and almost NO TOURISTS EVER (nothing to see here, just boring trees and dangerous wildlife!)
Walking, not biking to YSW yesterday, no big deal, even in the summer heat at lunchtime. The nature and wildlife all around you are just amazing this time of year! But no tourists on this part of the Lamma-wide Family Trails, even on a Sunday.

Looking at "the most expensive flat in Pak Kok" this week, just for fun, as we're currently looking at whether to leave or stay here. Greater YSW Area still looks unaffordable, so what about Sok Kwu Wan, Lo So Shing, Mo Tat Wan, or somewhere even more remote than Pak Kok? Ferry-less Lo Tik Wan or Luk Chau, perhaps? Really cheap, or try squatting in one of the many abandoned buildings for free for a short or long while...
Or move to Park Island, like my two ex-Lammaite friends who got married in the Beer Garden yesterday. 4 swimming pools, all the amenities and conveniences you could dream of, plus Noah's Ark amusement park in walking distance, a kind of Super-Discovery Bay, for rents quite similar to Yung Shue Wan?

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