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 Post subject: Luk Chau
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:29 am 
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Accidentally ended up in Luk Chau the other day and was fascinated by it.

Does anyone know how it ended up so derelict?

Does anybody still live there?

Did it end up it its current state simply because of a lack of a ferry?

Also, would love to get closer to Luk Chau Island. Thought that once I got to Luk Chau village, I'd be as close I could get but it still seemed a little way off. Is is possible to get to the coast on Lamma nearest the island without having to go full-on bush bashing?!


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:03 am 
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One of the best ways to learn about Luk Chau, Search for Luk Chau on the top right of our home page:
Photo albums on how to get there, about the village and its major yearly dragon boat races at their temple/pier.

Only place on Lamma where they actually burn the lion after the lion dance for the races.

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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:11 am 
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From Centamap, based on govt survey maps.
Should be a few buildings and a pier on the point opposite the island.
In many of these villages locals block access and build fences to keep people out, even if it's government land, and many keep vicious dogs they let run loose for the same reason. There is a "dog rescuer" there with a pack of half wild dogs that have attacked and wounded people. Bring a walking stick to keep them at bay -- no joke.

Obvious thing is to get a boat.

It's been a long time since I was in the village, but there were several very well off people who lived there and commuted by boat to HK.

I guess that with the oncoming development at the quarry that any land owners there are rubbing their hands and quadrupling their rents and prices.
Even though it will still be easier to get to Aberdeen than climb across the hills to it unless someone builds a tunnel or cuts a path around the coast.


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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Yeah! Had an encounter with a dog pack! Horrible! What on earth is going on there?!

Love to know more about buying a boat if anyone can explain to me how to go about it.

Even thinking of swimming out tot he island if fear of tiger sharks doesn't get the better of me..!


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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Are those people in the lion dance video LUk Chau locals?

The place looked completely deserted when I went there. Was that really this year? Gotta go next time.


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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NotToby wrote:
Even thinking of swimming out tot he island if fear of tiger sharks doesn't get the better of me..!

There has never been any real sightings of sharks around Lamma. Last shark attack in HK was in Sai Kung, in the 90s.

It looks like an easy 150 m, but I would be worried about being carried away by the currents.
The local fish farmers make rafts out of plastic barrels and styrofoam held together with old nets.


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:42 pm 
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Yes, a lot of the dragon boaters are probably family and friends who have left Luk Chau as soon as they grew up.
Go there on a holiday or a weekend, locals use Luk Chau for their occasional weekend home, but living off-island, like more and more Lamma indigenous residents. A few friendly locals and a few secluded expats who don't seem to have hardly any contact with the rest of the island, having their own boats to get out of this almost deserted village for almost anything.

Rentals for a entire house can be as little as a small flat in other parts of Lamma. Landlords are hoping for massive raises after the doubling of the Lamma population after the building of the neighbouring New Town inside the ex-Lamma Quarry on Sok Kwu Wan Bay, just a few minutes away on the current paths. A direct connection might be part of the massive, multi-billion$ building plans. Haven't seen a recent plan yet and the Govt. doesn't seem to be in any hurry, even though it was rumoured that parts of the Li Ka-shing empire will be building it? Years away or decades away?

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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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I always wanted to visit Luk Chau Island ("Dog Island"), but you need somebody who's on good terms with the completely feral dogs over there, maybe one of the people who've been feeding them occasionally?

Sally Andersen would know how to get there, the highest-profile, long-time resident of Luk Chau, known and interviewed all over HK.

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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:55 pm 
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Some shots I took from a helicopter outside Luk Chau, Luk Chau island in the foreground:
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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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There were stories that there were drug dealers using the island a few years ago. Completely stupid, since it's all out on the open, no cover, and anyone can see your comings and goings from the hills above the village.

PS -- if someone is going there to feed dogs regularly, maybe that's how this rumour started.


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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I thought Luk Chau meant "Deer Island," - not that I'd know anyway, having terrible Chinese - it's just what the sign at Luk Chau village says.

Are there really feral dogs on the island itself? Poor things! What on earth do they eat? Are there any man-made structures on the island?


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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Thanks for the photos BTW. They're beautiful.


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:16 pm 
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NotToby wrote:
I thought Luk Chau meant "Deer Island,"

That's the literal translation, the official English name is "George Island".
I don't think even one deer could have lived on it. Maybe some rabbits, but if there were, dogs would have got them now.
Not many people know the English names any more, like Picnic Bay for Sok Kwu Wan.


People call just about every geographic feature around here "Dog" or "Snake" since those are the most prominent animals these days. Soon we might have some "pig" features as the wild pigs get more numerous and bolder every year. At least until the government turns the whole area into a mini Disco Bay.

Found this ad selling two houses there for $45 million.

And this book Southern District Officer Reports: Islands and Villages in Rural Hong Kong, 1910-60 has reports on the village in the 1950s. A lot of other interesting detail about other villages too.
It says "the village is perched high up on rocks", but the present village is right by the coast. Probably some ruins up in the forest.
Villages on the coast were subject to pirate attacks.


PS -- do not write multiple sequential messages. Use the edit button to add to your previous post.


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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Amazing details, thank you. We really live on a special and interesting island. Wanna find out more.


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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And here's someone trying to rent a house in Luk Chau for $15,800.
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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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NotToby wrote:
Yeah! Had an encounter with a dog pack! Horrible! What on earth is going on there?!

Love to know more about buying a boat if anyone can explain to me how to go about it.

Even thinking of swimming out tot he island if fear of tiger sharks doesn't get the better of me..!


Swimming to Luk Chau. I tried to land my kayak on Luk Chau (the Island, not the village) and was attacked by dogs. This was two years ago. Apparently someone kept the dogs there to prevent any visits. They may be still there.

Also, there was a very strong current between Lamma and Luk Chau.


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 Post subject: Re: Luk Chau
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rambler wrote:
Swimming to Luk Chau. I tried to land my kayak on Luk Chau (the Island, not the village) and was attacked by dogs. This was two years ago. Apparently someone kept the dogs there to prevent any visits. They may be still there.


Why would anyone go to that much trouble? There is nothing there to protect. It'd be a stupid place to hide anything, on a rock in plain sight of a dozen houses.
Maybe it's Devil's Island for dogs, the dog rescuers put the most aggressive ones there rather then let them roam around.


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Ha ha! A canine Australia!


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