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 Post subject: Marilena's wonderful art
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To Paint is a risk: to paint the figure a leap into the unknown: to paint the nude even riskier: to paint confessionally is heroic.

Marilena has some magnificent pieces on display at Elizabeth's Cyan Studio art space. They explore what looks to me like the Nordic vision of the human figure and are filled for me with the music of Sibelius, that desparate longing you feel in the North for a delayed spring.

Best in show is a woman entering what looks like a green and wet world on one of those days that drives you crazy, in spring, in the North, one of those days you don't want to miss, one of those days for skinny dipping before winter returns for another go.

The risk is that everybody "knows" what the human figure look like. Marilena knows how to draw, and draw well.

But the only way to avoid lay critique is to paint in the absolute Salon style that was perfected, strangely coincident with the advent of photography, in Louis Napoleon's France. This is only because the absolute "accuracy" of a Bouguereau constructed our idea of what "good" painting looks like: a glossy and Hollywood unreality.

Marilena is more Expressionist. She doesn't wall herself off from the feelings of birth, of yearning for one more Spring in a world that is so terribly old in so many ways, or the basic feeling of being exposed, in art where the artist totally empathises with the model.

Of course, even if you paint "realistically", you then get into hot water with people who would cover the human body. My grandmother, with my Mom's encouragement, my Mom having artistic yearnings never once met in Hell's Kitchen and the Depression, went to the Metropolitan Museum (it was free), but returned saying it was an immoral place, with all those naked statues.

There's an epidemic, according to a recent report in the BBC, of penis whacking off, of various Neoclassical statues scattered about London in public places. Fortunately, the giant, nude statue of Napoleon that the Duke of Wellington nicked, probably in Spain, is safe in his house: but the last time there was an epidemic of this sort of sensitivity was the Dark Ages.

Wasn't it.

Some feminists have claimed that the nude in Western art is basically some guy exploiting women, some layabout in an attic who should get a real job. Of course, when a woman paints a nude, this drains the feminist explanation of any sense whatsoever, and, even when a male paints a nude, he is often identifying with the exposure felt by the model, because in art he exposes himself to others, who, in most times and places, are mostly ready to lynch the guy for making art in the first place, for example by tossing bricks through his window. It's "not good" at best, and at worst fatwa time.

[They also tossed bricks through Wellie's window, whereupon he installed iron bars, and it was these bars that have Wellington the nick-name "The Iron Duke". But no artist he, of course, it was more in response to his views, which were quite Conservative, indeed they were damn-your-eyes Tory...but not Conservative enough for him to throw his support to Reform, and letting Catholics into the better clubs, in 1830, which simply caused more brick-throwing, this time, from the Tory die-hards.]

[Which just goes to show, but I digress.]

The nude, Marilena's and Goya's Naked Maja, pose an existential question which we normally avoid in acquiring things, and shopping for clothes. What is this life? Will Spring (Fruhlings-Zeit, right, LG?) never come? Why is there something rather than nothing, and what is the destiny of that something that feels such pain, feels such joy, and gives such birth?

About my only cavil, really just art nerd advice to Marilena: be careful with wooden panels in this climate. Daniel Thompson, in The Art of Tempera Painting, warns us that glue will always fail you, especially in dampish climates (even Krazy Glue, in my experience).

Perhaps the philosophical reason is that glue needs glue to stick it to the thing it sticks to, and this meta-glue needs a further glue...you get the picture but again I digress.

Thompson gives a complicated procedure for joining panels just so, with the grains opposing, to avoid trouble.

However, don't let this prevent you from buying Marilena's work! The panels will survive if you have a dehumidifier, which many people do here. Daniel Thompson (an art school professor) is of the old school in which art students were encouraged to produce pieces that could last hundreds of years, but in my own work, I have to reject this as an important technical criterion: the important thing is to make art, and, computer imaging can make digital backups.

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Thanks, Mr Art Critic.
I spent much of the afternoon at Marilena's exhibition, but didn't see you.
It's a nice review, with all these very general comments on painting nudes (with the usual many digressions) but you hardly mentioned or described ANY of her paintings. Did you like them and why? I still don't know after reading your long "review".

You also forgot to mention that you'll be the next artist featured in October in The Cyan Studio. Could you show us some of your finished artwork please, as we have only seen a few basic sketches so far. You'll have two rooms to fill in the gallery! This is the "Pictures" forum where everybody is welcome to show their pictures and gt some feedback.

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Will Spring (Fruhlings-Zeit, right, LG?)

Sorry, still two typos. It should be "Frühlingszeit".

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This thread is about Marilena: cf. the Wild Teenage Beatnik Ghost Dancers thread for updates on my show in October including new images.

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OK, so tell us more about Marilena's paintings, Mr Art Critic. Did you like them and why?
My friend Marilena was the very first Artist of the Month ever in the Lamma-zine, back in 2003. The only painting you mentioned in your review is the one that is close to being sold, see below, depending on negotiations with the lady you met in Banyan Bay Cafe for the very first time the other day...

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spinoza1112 {L_WROTE}:
Blah bloody blah blahbiddy blah blah.

Hmm, that really is very interesting. Thanks.


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It's ok Granny Eater, don't get all bitter and intimidated. You can come with me to the next one.


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Any comments on the exhibition from you, Mademoiselle Toddy?

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Lamma-Gung {L_WROTE}:
OK, so tell us more about Marilena's paintings, Mr Art Critic. Did you like them and why?
My friend Marilena was the very first Artist of the Month ever in the Lamma-zine, back in 2003. The only painting you mentioned in your review is the one that is close to being sold, see below, depending on negotiations with the lady you met in Banyan Bay Cafe for the very first time the other day...

<img src="http://www.lamma.com.hk/forum/Lamma-Gung/images/20/!!DSC01798.jpg" border=1>


It was harder for me to relate to the birthing picture, but all of her work, as I said was excellent. Her picture of her sister was Nordic and, as I said, I heard in her work the music of Sibelius.

The image of the sleeping female expressed pure vulnerability as when people got naked to protest against the war. "My" parts are exposed but this does not make them "yours". The Lady's not for burning. The human right to sleep unmolested.

The nude just inside the door to Elizabeth's artspace was like a Klimt or a Munch. A central twisting: we live in our middle as in Pilates.

I suppose if I were a real art critic, I'd say "the plastic forms of Marilena's art deconstruct the difference between artist and model, putting into question the relationship, in turn, of the voyeur/viewer whose Gaze is also a risk, placing the viewer's own relationship to her body into question. But as Wittgenstein said, "my body" is not a compound of particulars, it is the first thing we learn prior to the Freudian mirror stage."

Render unto me, oh Lamma the Gung, the break that is f*g, for I provided all sorts of juicy tid-bits, both germane, and not so germane, and Swiss too.

But the key idea was that Marilena's work is a reversal of psychoanalysis in reverse, a return to the psychoanalytic process where we grow more and not less self-aware. When we see fifty foot high, impossibly young and fit Calvin Swine models in Causeway Bay, this is what my gloomy Teutonic friend (mein Deutsches Freunde, mein Fremde Freunde, you may correct my German) Adorno called "psychoanalysis in reverse".

In PIR, the mass media steals images produced by ordinary people and plays them back using high technology in a way that alienates people, not only from high art but even from folkish art. They are so overwhelmed by amplified music that their inner chansons die and they set their face against this world in the name of Fundamentalism or merely the way of the anhedonic who can take no pleasure in culture at any level ("your music sucks, man"), not to mention Beethoven or Sibelius.

We need another person to give a more sensuous view, one less obscure than mine, one more innocent. Toddy? Yeah, you go girl. Please give your view. As to innocent, well wovon mann nicht sprechen kann daruber muss man schweigen (boo yah). Nice to meat you in the space of meat, at the Banyan Tree.

I think my egghead critique is needed merely because it is so rare. At the same time I seemed to have obscured some of the power of Marilena's art for many readers, as Lamma oh Gung has so helpfully pointed out.

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Granola Eater {L_WROTE}:
spinoza1112 {L_WROTE}:
Blah bloody blah blahbiddy blah blah.

Hmm, that really is very interesting. Thanks.


Thanks, sport. Doo wah diddly bop kabop hey schmiddly bo.

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<<Last edited by spinoza1112 on Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:09 pm; edited 2 times in total>>

Good catch Spinner. My hackles were starting to rise.


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Anyhow, about the painting in question, I would almost say there are no words to describe what it elicits in me, but that would just be stupid and lazy. Of course there are words. It will take some effort for me to find and assemble them. And if I do manage to wrestle with essence in the basement of my soul and cough something up in a linguistic cloak, I look especially forward to what Granola Eater will have to say about it.


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You already know what I would say--- the only way to avoid lay critique is to paint in the absolute Salon style that was perfected, strangely coincident with the advent of photography, in Louis Napoleon's France. This is only because the absolute "accuracy" of a Bouguereau constructed our idea of what "good" painting looks like: a glossy and Hollywood unreality.


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Wow, Granny Eater, we didn't know you had it in you, hiding it so well all these years! Plagiarising well is an artform in itself and only true masters can pull it off so elegantly and in an undetectable manner...

But if "the absolute "accuracy" of a Bouguereau constructed our idea of what "good" painting" should look like" is really historically accurate or just convenient conjecture is wide open to debate at this nexus of art history, the end of post-modernity, not the beginning of post-post-modernity but, as some art critics like to call it in their all too often so typically pompuous and snobbish demeanor, the Deconstructivist Ultimate Hiatus (DUH! for short), the deepest abyss of low-brow, ultra-commercalised art, the miserable end of our hallowed art history, the ultimate decline of quality and aesthetic standards and the continuing, catastrophic decay of our formerly highly sophisticated arts, which are a truly inalienable part of our emotional core, our very lives and self-image as truly civilised gentlemen and gentlewomen..

Marilena's art is definitely NOT part of this dim and apocalypic future of art, but firmly rooted in the hallowed traditions of the past:
highly evolved skill, technique and brush control, demonstrating true mastership of the delicate and divine craft of oil and acrylic painting, truly hand-made, none of all those computer-generated eyesores, all this totally unworthy visual CeeGee trash flooding the Internet, especially this site, none of which is worthy of even the tiniest iota of our attention and just a total waste of precious time and resources by these self-proclaimed so-called "artists" - charlatans, all! - and their boorish viewers alike who should go to visit a museum in person instead !!!

For a particularly horrid and distasteful collection of CeeGee trash, consider this new "art" gallery, be duly abhorred and genuinely outraged at this recent collection of visual trash, all generated from simple, innocent photographs that have been distorted beyond recognition into horrendous, jarring abominations:
http://www.compunicate.com/Lamma-zine/AG-Lamma-Gung-4.htm

[End of rant, feeling better now. But Spinoza seems to be getting to me...]

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I couldn't agree more.


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Thank you Granny Eater! After all these years, you've finally proven me right to appoint you Moderator of the Fight Club. You are truly worthy!

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The lame and recalcitrant conservatism that denies originality and new art media is culturally cannibalistic.

Holding and using a brush to paint is not rocket science - it is learn't like any other skill through practice and observation. There is nothing divine in it at all - religion is proven defunct through its untimeliness and the contra evolution of rationality and empiricism.

Those that market well and have the ear of the rich will have their art survive them. Why is it men's paintings survive? How many famous women painters can be counted among the so called masters? Might this have something to do with the standing in society of the artist? e.g their gender?

Computer graphics are as valid an art media as canvas, bark, silk or any other surface. The www will have and is having a marked effect on culture expresed through art.

But lest we forget that traditional art was for the elite and rich as well as the aspiring bourgeoise who can afford some time and money to visit the museum. There are few museums and libraries in the poorer districts! But notice the beggars outside of museums. they know where the money is.

Most are mesmerised by Hollywood, it has its detractors now, those that cling to the raft of the safe and known past. The past is gone and the present is different. Accept it.
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Don't you guys go changin' on me. Always good to hear from Lamma the Gung and Granola Eater.

It's not all bullshit, and I can prove it. For if it were, we could call it food.

But don't go changin' on me.

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