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| Author: | Foxy [ Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Remember This? |
This forum has gotten pretty moribund of late, Lamma Oldsters in particular. Are you still with us Kieth? Anyone remember this? Putting the lid on Lamma ‘pot’ pushers Andy Gilbert talks to an undercover cop who helped to break up Lamma’s soft drug dealers, and who warns more sting operations could be mounted if other expats take to pushing. The buyer had $50,000 stuffed into a hold-all ready to be exchanged for three kilograms of cannabis resin. He was slightly nervous. It was the first time he had attempted a buy on this scale. Thirty-five pairs of eyes were watching with more than a passing degree of interest. The pusher arrived at the downstairs eating area of McDonald’s in Central. He had failed to come up with the goods, which would have sold on the street for six times his asking price. But he’d said enough to be picked up on the buyer’s wire tap in any case. A pre-arranged signal – a lengthy yawn – brought most of the eaters to their feet. A few moved in and made the arrest. Michael Giles Murphy realized his dreams of being Lamma Island’s next big drug dealer were shattered. He hadn’t realized, but they had been shattered when he first sold half a gram of cannabis resin to the “buyer” in Yung Shue Wan’s Corner Bar a month before in April this year [1993]. Selling drugs to an undercover cop really is asking for trouble. Murphy, a British national, has now moved from Lamma to Lantau. He’ll be in Ma Po Ping prison until early next year. His age, just 19, his former clean record and his guilty plea, persuaded the courts to deal with him relatively lightly, but on his release he faces deportation and the rest of his life as a convicted drug trafficker. The message the police want to put across to the large expat community on Lamma is simple – you just never know who you might be dealing with. “The feeling I get is that there are an awful lot of soft drugs on Lamma but not a lot of big players,” said the “buyer”, a Detective Inspector then working in the Islands Division. “But people there should know that we aren’t prepared to let it go. There are operations and surveillance there all the time. “People might think it’s just soft drugs, but even soft drugs affect you. Lamma is riddled with people who abuse substances, from the bricklayer to the professional. For a lot of people there, their life has gone to ruin.” The only seizures of hard drugs on the island are limited and tend to be minor amounts of heroin found among the older Chinese community. But despite the changing face of Lamma with more and more professionals choosing to settle there, it still has the stigma of a sleepy, hippy-type expat retreat rife with soft drugs. However, the statistics do not bear this out. This year, apart from the Murphy case, there have been only four convictions for cannabis possession. Last year there were nine and in 1991, again, just four. The police claim that this is because they are looking for the bigger fish and because a close-knit community is so difficult to police. Nevertheless, the Corner Bar, the most popular of four licensed premises in Yung Shue Wan, failed to get its club liquor licence renewed last month and will close on December 12. The drug dealing and open smoking of joints there, together with complaints from residents of noise, loutish behaviour, and urinating in the street outside, persuaded the licensing committee it was time to act. Owner Mark Wong Shiu-wing, seemingly unaware of such activity because he is rarely there, plans to convert it into a coffee shop. But Lamma is unlikely to change, despite police operations, warnings, and surveillance of certain targeted individuals. “You can get anything you want there, drugs, prostitutes, it can all be arranged on Lamma,” the Inspector said. “The drugs come either from Chung King Mansions or from China. “The whole of the island is run by triads – the Fuk Yee Hing. I suspect every bar and shop are paying them. “Even the Corner Bar had its own ‘protector’ at the time I was going there undercover. I anticipated a meeting with the protector. I could see who he was and I would have thought he would have been interested in any activity he came across.” But the smaller Chinese community among the island’s 10,000 inhabitants tends to let the expats live their lives while they get on with their own. Murphy knew the Corner Bar’s protector and wasn’t expected to give him a cut. In return, when he got into trouble, he alone took the rap. The Inspector, a 25-year-old Canadian, said: “I’d decided to hang around the bars in Lamma to find out what was going on. One night inside the Corner bar it became evident that a group of people were talking about drugs and were passing round a joint.” Posing as a Canadian journalist living on Lantau, the Inspector set up a deal with Murphy for the following night, the first of 10 meetings and four controlled buys which eventually led to the “sting” backed up by 35 officers posing as customers in Central’s McDonald’s. “Several of the buys took place inside the Corner Bar,” he said. “It was hard to say whether the staff knew what was going on.” “Then I had to think, is this going to lead to anything? In the end we made the decision that this fellow could not come across with sufficient quantities. That’s when we decided to set the final bust. “It was so unreal at times. I grew a beard and played the role just like in a film. In the police car after the arrest Murphy kept saying he’d thought I’d been so good. I just thought he had been so stupid.” It was not the first undercover operation on Lamma and, he says, it will not be the last. In 1989, an officer was set up by the force as a traveler passing through. For six months he lived on the island with a bogus identity and job, gathering information from unsuspecting expats which led to several arrests and drugs convictions. Since then the island’s 23 police officers have been at pains to show they are not prepared to give way to many of the islanders’ preferred way of life. Some police operations have led to complaints of racism and harassment because the expats are often singled out. But Islands Divisional Commander Chief Inspector jerry Howard said the police would not allow Lamma to become a no-go area. While not being prepared to substantiate rumours that that individual houses on the islands were being staked out, he admitted there was a steady flow of information about drug activities. “We do have reliable intelligence over there,” he said. “If they deal in drugs then they must take the risk that it could be with the next undercover police officer. We are not prepared to tolerate the kind of lawless society that exists back in the UK.” How about these headlines from around the same time or a few year before? Little Lamma, big bust Lamma gunman goes free |
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| Author: | Guy MIller [ Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Remember This? |
Foxy {L_WROTE}: Little Lamma, big bust
Do you have a name or a photo? |
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| Author: | aging bimbo [ Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:55 pm ] |
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Shite policing, worse journalism. Boy gets busted for pretending to be a drug dealer. |
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| Author: | Insomniac [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:31 pm ] |
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That sounds like a long time ago. You'd be more likely to get done for cycling without a light than drug dealing these days (or so it seems). What happened to the guy? Or is he back from deportation? |
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| Author: | k@ [ Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:06 am ] |
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{L_QUOTE}: This forum has gotten pretty moribund of late, Lamma Oldsters in particular. Are you still with us Kieth? Anyone remember this?
Yes it has. I'm around infrequently. Yes I remember the incident but not sure about the bloke. Think he was he the young fella that wore black jeans and engineers boots a lot. Friend of Al Morgan's. |
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| Author: | CHOPPER [ Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | I REMEMBER THAT |
THE YOUNG FELLA IN QUESTION WAS COMPLETLY SET UP. HE WENT TO MC DONALDS WITH THE INTENTION OF PICKING UP THE MONEY AND DOING ONE THE UNDERCOVER COPPER SINGLED HIM OUT AS AN EASY TARGET AND COERCED THE WHOLE SITUATION. I KNOW THIS AS I WAS HIS BEST MATE. WHILE MIKE WAS UNDER ARREST THEY DID SIMULTANEOS BUSTS THRUOGHOUT THE ISLAND. THE ONLY THING FOUND WAS A SMALL AMOUNT OF POT THAT THE POLICE PLANTED IN MY HOUSE IN PAK KOK. IT WAS THE SAME UNDERCOVER INVOLVED. I THOUGHT ABOUT FIGHTING THIS OUT IN COURT, BUT WAS ADVISED TO LEAVE HONG KONG. AND THAT IS WHAT I DID. |
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| Author: | Lamma-Gung [ Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:41 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | Drug bust | ||
Well, the undercover stings and drug busts have returned. Allan just got 6 months in jail for trafficking after an undercover went to his house to buy pot. Linda got off with a fine. See SCMP story attached, Nov 4, Page C4.
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| Author: | sjm_qc [ Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:13 am ] |
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There was at least one earlier sting operation on Lamma than the one Foxy posted, around 1989, can't remember the chap's name, I'm thinking maybe Simon ??, a recent arrival at the time who was set up in a similar fashion and went down for a few months. And while you're doing ancient history : "Lamma gunman goes free " Would that have been 1989 - 1990, after a police raid at Christmas surely looking for drugs and which turned up an unregistered gun in the possession of an American (?) journo, a souvenir from Vietnam (or is my imagination running away with me ???? - I arrived back on Lamma a week after that event from Australia... |
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| Author: | zep [ Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:57 am ] |
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Poor old bugger banged up for hurting nobody when people get away with arson, GBH etc on a regular basis. Still, with four priors, he should probably have realised it was time to head off and feed the stray cats of Amsterdam. |
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| Author: | Foxy [ Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:23 pm ] |
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Lamma gunman goes free I got caught up in that one too - but it wasn't his gun, it belonged to his faltmate who was some sort of American spy (he was deported very shorly after his arrest. The drugs raid was reported by Stewart Wolfendale in the SCMP in an article headlined 'Little lamma, big bust' The cops strip searched every gweilo on the last ferry (after telling the Chinese to go home), prior to raiding all the bars. Said gunman was picked up with his 'lucky' bullet. The lamma gunman in question is still with us, by the way. |
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| Author: | k@ [ Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:27 pm ] |
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Just like to post a quick hello to the Lamma Gunman 
Most of the stupid mid 90's busts mentioned above were made while the cops were searching for a specific drug trafficer who lived on Lamma for several years. All attempts to identify and locate the fellow ended in abject failure. He was eventually busted in China. Presumably, the minor busts were an attempt by the officers running the operation to justify the huge ammount of time and money they wasted. |
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| Author: | Toad in the Hole [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Earliest drug bust on Lamma Island |
I believe the earliest drug bust on Lamma Island involving a gweillo was in 1983/84 when a South African called Anton Fereira, a journalist, was done for cannabis. He had a beard and may have worked in commercial radio. Chris the carpenter would know or Frank Murdoch. Back to sleep. |
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| Author: | sjm_qc [ Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:03 am ] |
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Ah, see, I knew I was mixed up about the gunman story but did remember that it went with the "drug" bust , too long away, and far ago  .
So Keith, who *was* the mega-dealer who was never busted on Lamma ??? Sarah |
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| Author: | bbchris [ Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:01 am ] |
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boinking Keith for an answer! 
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| Author: | Lamma-Gung [ Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | "The Great Lamma Bust of '89" |
Submitted by Mr DickStock, the original SCMP article by Stuart Wolfendale, first-hand experience of "The Great Lamma Bust of '89": Click here! |
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| Author: | phantom phourskin of funk [ Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:45 pm ] |
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wow i was witnisss to all the above stories it all seems like yesterday. |
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| Author: | Sooty [ Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Drug busts |
I know I'm a few years late in the conversation but I remember one drug bust on Lamma where Geoff F was busted coming back from Macau with a bunch of stuff strapped to his body. He did a few years before he was deported. They pulled me in and couldn't find anything on me so advised me strongly to leave to colony... That was in '93 and I was flatting with Geoff and his missus who was a stripper just off Canton Road. Also saw the pic someone put up of old faces from Lamma and the face of the girl in the photo on the right on the top line was the girl that worked at HK Baguette in Lan Kwai Fong...she was always nice to me whan I was trashed and waiting for the first ferry back from central. Sad about Knoxy too...nice bloke and good mate. |
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