Because they were nonsense (but not in a funny way).


1) There will be plenty more breeding pools now, as the drainage is royally ****ed up by the dumping.
2) Mosquitoes aren't attracted to shit.The females suck blood, the males drink nectar. And frogs will happily eat flies anyway.

So, that was irony was it?

Just to help the hard of thinking on this forum, the cartoon goes with this quote from the Lo Down column, which is the only slot I had anywhere near your hallowed "protest". As there was nothing about the lilly pond in said column, I had to try and find something relevant, which as luck would have it, there was.

"Say, we occasionally go to online forums, Facebook, or check personal e-mails. How much time do we have to spend on these online activities to make it abuse? There are no guidelines.
Federation of Civil Service Union chairman Leung Chau-ting, claiming he does not understand what abusive use of the internet in the office by government workers means after an assistant Environmental Protection Department director - on a salary of HK$120,000 a month - was found spending half his time during workdays browsing pornographic websites"

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That wasn't aimed at you Alan, by the way.

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I guessed that.

Anyway, obviously most of us saw the cartoon out of context, once things start floating around the web they can take on unintended meanings.

And you have no obligation to explain your cartoons, thanks for doing so though. I hardly ever read "Lo Down" even when I get the paper.

can anybody help me locate the Chinese version of this paper?

http://www.legco.gov.hk/yr07-08/english ... 68-1-e.pdf

checked the legco site, this submission is only in english

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I live on the edge of one of Lamma's many small swamps and they have been dumping contruction rubble, garbage, and soil behind my place into the swamp for nearly 9 months. I spoke with the landlord and he said it was private land and therefore legal. Sounds like it is not. I have yet to figure out where it is coming from, but based on what I see going into the swamp it looks rubble from building demolition.

I got an email from my colleague at AFCD on Monday (the holiday), who is not responsible for dealing with protected wild animals (Romer's tree frog), about the SCMP article. He said he would talk with his co-worker, who is in charge of protected wild animals, again on Tuesday to provide an assessment of the situation or some guidance. I still have not heard back from them.

My apologies to Nancy who is trying to keep the debate sane, but Mr Beanburglar and Thunderbird are a particularly intolerant duo that are difficult to ignore.

I am very supportive of trying to keep Lamma from becoming a dump, but as has been said by others before, this will be viewed very quickly as a pesky foreigner non-issue. No one who does not live in the near vicinity is going to mourn the disappearance of the lilly pond for very long.

As an aside, although Thunderbird thinks my "dog dirt" reference was nonsense, it was a hint to another issue which 'foreigners' seem to have a blind spot for.

And ps I guess no one else took up Lammagung's challenge to provide alternative captions because they appreciate more than I that only one viewpoint is tolerated by the moderator of this forum (his own).

I think widening the issue like this makes much more sense and it is something a lot more people could get onboard with.

So we should mention DOG SHIT DOG SHIT DOG SHIT in every post on every subject just to show that we're not blind to it. Yes, that should broaden the issue.


I had hoped no one would notice that I had deleted the dozens of posts praising your hilarious sally. Nothing gets past you.
Only 190 posts made in this thread, how intimidated everyone must be.


How fortunate we are that plucky, yet anonymous, upstarts like yourself dare to constantly insult me. How brave you are to risk my wrath.


Fine, so you can just ignore it then.

The real reason is probably that Harry's cartoon is, as usual, wittily conceived and brilliantly drawn, and nobody has come up with an alternative that is half as good.

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No one is going to mourn the loss of the lily pond? Really?

I'll miss the Lily Pond and I don't live anywhere near it. It's not just a lily pond with frogs and beautiful flowers, ..... which can also look like a sad puddle on a bad day btw.

It's also a 'Watercourse",.. it's pretty important not only to the ecosystem, but the whole drainage system, which we need basically to stop flooding of the surrounding farmland and homes.

And as for the dog shit. That's a different topic.... I can't see how it's relevant to a debate (which it seems to be turning into) about saving a watercourse, and natural farmland, or questioning why there is so much dumping of rubbish and destroying everything when it's not necessary, nor is it legal.

Maybe I should open my own topic .

I agree. It would be difficult to compete with such an experienced "master of witticisms." But the challenge wasn't to come up with something better, just something different, and shapogung was the only one to take the challenge and contribute.
Oh well, more creative challenges ahead, I hope...<HR>
Tigger,
you're always most welcome to open your own topic, of course.

But we already have more than enough dog poo-heavy topics in these forums over the last almost 7 years, kind of an exhausted, old and (literally) smelly topic. Dog poo is certainly one of Harry's all-time favourite topics, even though the SCMP doesn't usually like to publish them.

So this cartoon below is a Lamma-zine exclusive from back in those happy happy days when Harry was still acting as the Official Court Cartoonist, before he got so very busy, rich and famous with all his beautiful, best-selling books.

Sorry to LAP who wasn't too happy with this cartoon when I published it first in April 2004.

Can we continue with the topics at hand now and leave the dog poo to other forum topics, please?

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When I said I should open my own forum.... I didn't mean about 'dog poop'... although now I can see how it may be seen that way. I meant opening a new topic along the lines of .....

"Tired of dumping waste and VV's'.... or :
'People who go off topic in a forum' ... (as I did myself

OK I am happy now. My ego has been sated.

On TVB this evening there was a series of adverts agains illegal dumping of construction waste. The earnest voiceover says: "illegal dumping of construction waste is a criminal offence. Report any violations on our hotline - call 1823"

Let's call

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I had a long discussion today with the person in charge of permits for protected species at Agriculture, Fisheries, and Conservation Department (AFCD; and yes, he called on a Sunday). AFCD sent out an officer /warden on Wednesday to look at the situation at the lily pond and to make a report to others responsible for protected species. They also contacted the Lands Department to find out whether they are taking any action.

While the AFCD person who called me said that technically the "landowner" did not violate the Wild Animals Protection Ordinance because he did not willfully disturb the site (emphasis being on willfully), we had a good discussion about what this small disturbance may mean for the greater Long Shue Long Valley. I emphasized that unless the "landowner" is notified that he has destroyed habitat for the protected Romer's tree frog, he may continue to disturb (without will) additional habitats up the valley so that in the end much of the habitat is destroyed. I reminded him that ignorance is not an excuse for breaking the law and that the government agencies have an obligation to notify the "landowner" that he has potentially violated the law with regard to a protected species. The AFCD gent acknowledged this issue and is going to speak with others at AFCD and with the Lands Department about this.

He also said that because it is zoned agriculture, houses cannot be built on the land, but then he backed off and said that indigenous people may have some special rights in this regard. He said he would find out and get back to me on it. If the "landowner" cannot build on zoned agricultural land, then a permit to change the zoning would trigger an investigation by AFCD and the Lands Department. However, it would not trigger an environmental impact assessment that would uncover things such as Romer's tree frog breeding sites.

I have made a record with AFCD that Romer's tree frog males were calling at the site (implies that the breed at the site), prior to its destruction, and I will formally document other sites in the valley with them.

Tried calling 1823. The young lady was pleasant enough, but her English was so limited that I'm not sure I got the message across after about 15 "would you mind to spell" interludes. Maybe someone can call the Cantonese operative.

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The Sub-committee on combating fly-tipping met this morning at Legco.
Four early birds from Lamma attended the meeting.

Apparently "illegal dumping of construction waste is a criminal offence....everywhere except on Lamma and other rural areas that lie outside the DPA". Those who get caught red-handed dumping D&C waste in country parks, green belts, conservation areas... get fined. As you do if you spit or drop a cigarette butt. The fine is so low, it's definitely not a deterrent...more like a slap on the wrist and the culprits go and dump somewhere else, where they are less likely to be caught.

We can call that hotline as many times as we like, but unless they change the legislation, and include Lamma in the DPA, nothing can be done to protect our island.

The government departments that took part in the meeting this morning were more interested in "defining waste", with some even refusing to call it waste, (they'd rather call it "Construction Material")

As to the issue of dumping on private land, the stakeholders they mentioned were the Construction Industry and the Rural District Council (i.e. Kuk)....apparently, the residents who have to put up with the consequences of villagers landilling large parts of the New Territories are not regarded as stakeholders.